Wednesday, May 16, 2012

The Great Tomato Experiment

We all know tomatoes love heat and need at least 75 days to make that wonderful delicious fruit we all crave. My problem is that I just don't get enough heat in my micro climate to really grow to nice sized tomatos. In fact, the last two years, I didn't get to harvest any until late October! If it freezes before then, the whole tomato season is over in one night.

Determined to solve this and grow great tomatoes, I'm trying something new things this year. Like short season variaties that mature in 55-65 days.

And tomatoes in a bucket...



First, I acquired a LOT of food grade buckets for free from a local bakery. (Good for them in that they're recycling; good for me in that I can afford this project!) My husband cut the bottom off each bucket on a saw - can't remember... table saw or ban saw? Either might work.



Next he cut chicken wire in a square large enough to cover the bottom and continue a bit up the sides. Then he attached it with a staple gun. We didn't bother about the sharp prongs sticking out inside because they're way down at the bottom and it's not likely we'll be working in that area. However, he did use a round piece of lumber that he inserted into the bottom of the bucket to keep it from collapsing when he stapled. This just kind of helped it keep it's shape. Once stapled, he removed the wooden form.






Finally I dug a hole large enough to sink almost the entire bucket in the ground, leaving just the rim sticking up above. Before placing the bucket in the hole, I fluffed up the bottom of the hole and added a bit of amendment. After placing the bucket inside, I filled in around the outer edges.





Finally, I removed all the side leaves from the tomato plant except the very top set in order to encourage root growth from the stalk of the plant. Then I filled in with a mix of soil and amendment almost to the top leaves and added straw as a final step.




So now to explain the WHY behind this all...

Protection. First and foremost, I needed to keep the gophers from eating my tomato plants! They take the entire plant down into their hole if you're not on top of them. The chicken wire will eventually wear out, but not this season. It can easily be replaced in necessary.

We live with wind all year long (although my property is one of the least windy in the area). The sides of the bucket will protect the seedlings from high winds until they are a bit stronger.

Although rare, we've had snow as late as June on the mountain. Since I saved the lids, if we have a late cold snap and the plants are still short, I can just put the lid on to keep them warm (and maybe weigh it down with a rock).

Root growth. The open bottom allows for roots to go deep (as long as Mr. Gopher doesn't notice). If the bucket were closed, there wouldn't be a need to sink them in the ground. If you're gardening on a balcony, this will certainly still work, so go for it! But if you have the land, utilize it for mineral nutrients and maximum growth.

Heat. The plastic will help trap some needed heat! A friend used black buckets at first, but that cooked the plants, Later she tried the white buckets and was successful. So I'm hoping the bucket makes the tomatoes very snug and happy so they'll produce lots of big fruit!

Watering. Even as the plant grows larger, the bucket will act as a water well, concentrating the water right where it needs to be. The straw will help it from drying out (our summer humidity is usually around 10% - pretty low). It's important that tomatoes not get too much water, but rather consistant water, otherwise the fruit will get cracks. With a dripper down in the bucket, this will make for very efficient watering!

For support, I'm installing 6' metal posts - one between each bucket. Sturdy and strong, these will allow me to tie up the tomatoes as they get larger.





Perhaps not the prettiest planting arrangement, but I'm desperate! I think once the plant fills in, it will look a lot better.

And now I wait...

And dream of juice, ripe, homegrown tomatoes...

Updates forthcoming!

Have you ever tried this method? If so, please chime in with tips and let us know how successful it was!






33 comments:

  1. I saw this article on short season varieties. There are heirlooms, from Siberia, that will set fruit right away. The article is really on another variety but they mention the Russian ones. It's on HGTV

    http://www.hgtv.com/landscaping/short-season-tomatoes/index.html

    The article features
    http://www.tomatofest.com/

    The 'Siberian' Heirloom Tomato Plant will set fruit at low temperatures—as low as 38 degrees.

    http://www.gardenharvestsupply.com/ProductCart/pc/Siberian-Heirloom-Tomato-Plant-p456.htm

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    1. Kathy, thanks for the link! Siberian tomatoes sound great! I'll check it out.

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  2. Wow! This is a lot of work for tomatoes... but it'll be sooo worth it!

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  3. This looks like a great method! I can't wait to see how it does for you.

    We live in Northwest Montana and although it's a challenge, we get tomatoes every year. People here swear by Early Girl as their favorite variety, but as we only grow heirloom varieties and the patent for Early Girl is owned by Monsanto, my varieties of choice are Siberian and Glacier. I usually put them out in late May or early June (we had 3" of snow on June 10 one year, so we just have to watch the weather carefully), surrounded by Water Walls. I often just leave the Water Walls on all summer and fold them down so that they still surround the roots and base of the plants.

    In the fall, we will often take the whole plant--green tomatoes and all-inside and hang it up or put it on newspaper. The green tomatoes will eventually ripen. I had fresh tomatoes one Thanksgiving using this method.

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    1. Janet, I've used the Water Walls and they do work pretty good. If it weren't for them, I'd probably never have seen a tomato on this property! But I think this might work better long term, so I'm giving it a shot. I may reuse the Water Walls on my peppers instead this year til I know what works the best.

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    2. Oh, and the water walls didn't protect from the gophers :-(

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    3. Yeah, for the gophers I would use a .22. :)

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  4. Amy,
    This is a terrific system! If you were to patent it, you'd make millions.

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  5. Looks like a great system! I do believe you have an idea that will be successful and soon you will be enjoying the best yummy fruit!

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  6. I have done the large blue buckets that you get in the dollar stores, the 20+qt ones. I have had great success with these. I am in a short season/weird weather area of Nebraska. I did both a short season mountian tomato and longer season with greenhouse coverings. Both worked that season. I also do peppers and lettuces in these buckets.
    I also did cucumbers in these buckets and they were a total success. My garden area is so very tiny, but I can pack out the produce. I have also battled bad weather/cold/weird weather, but I still have a few backup plants and have still had produce.
    You will do fine with this, and who cares what it looks like, if it works its ok, its your garden.

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  7. I love your idea!!!! I do not think that I will do that for tomatoes but I might use it for other things. We have a long enough growing season here. I live in Mississippi.

    I love to read your blog. Have tried many of your ideas. Thanks!!!!

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  8. Thank you for sharing! We're growing tomatoes for the first time this year, so we;re gleaning every last bit of advice we can. Looking forward to updates. :)

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  9. Already have tomatoes down here in Bakersfield. With the blasted heat comes tomatoes.

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    1. God made sure every place has it's perks! :-) Enjoy the tomatoes!

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  10. Have you every tried Sophies Choice tomatoes? These are new to me this year!

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    1. No I haven't. Thanks for mentioning it. I'll look into it.

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  11. Amy, I live in Alaksa AND in a micro climate that has wild temperature variations and wind during what passes as our spring and summer. I've tried the upside down method of growing tomatoes which didn't work for us and everything else. Growing them in the ground here is impossible due to the uneven temperatures and the wind -oh, and our gravel and peat "soil". Even raised beds with good soil hasn't worked. Growing them -or trying to -in the greenhouse is the only way we have found to get any tomatoes at all. If your buried bucket technique does not work this year, perhaps you could construct tall boxes of wood and visquene/plastic or light water-resistant fabric used for row covers and set over each of your buried bucket plants. What lengths we go to in order to get a good, juicy tomato that doesn't cost an arm and a leg at the grocery store! Why is it that my rhubarb is impossible to kill, but getting a decent tomato is such hard work?!?! ;-) Good luck!

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    1. Wow. Sounds like you have some big challenges to garden in Alaska. But on the plus side, a friend of mine who use to live there said she got AWESOME potatoes! Hoping you reap a bountiful harvest this year!

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  12. I understand the short, cold growing season, but I haven't had such a problem with gophers, yikes! I have found that determinate tomatoes do well in short seasons and I have had success with Bison, Stupice, and Silvery Fir Tree. I have a list of other early tomatoes that I'm hoping to find at our farmer's market.

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  13. You could almost fill in the buckets with more soil as they grow (like I'm doing with my potatoes) to encourage more root growth...

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  14. It never occurred to me to use a bucket in the ground. I just used them like planters.

    And it never occurred to me there was a difference between the buckets in the big box stores and buckets from, say, a restaurant.

    Oops.

    Wish you lots of luck! Can't wait to see how it goes. :o)

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  15. I LOVE your blog. I am a recent new follower...i think I found you on a link up some where. My husband and I dream of one day owning land and I would love to start a garden, raise chickens and goats, etc. However I know NOTHING about it. I was raised in the suburbs by a mother who had far from a green thumb (bless her heart she did try). We are newly married and living in a city but maybe someday our dreams can become reality! Until then i'll just follow you on your blog and learn what i can. Thanks for sharing your wealth of information!
    Jenna
    http://jennaandcalder.wordpress.com

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  16. Good luck, I hope it works out for you. I'm afraid my thumb is not very green. We have lots of heat in South Alabama and I am praying about my tomatoes. They will be lucky to last through me LOL

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  17. Wow! I'm still in awe over the 10% humidity. I'm pretty sure our wintertime humidity exceeds 10%, and summertime - well, as the day heats up, the humidity drops but average is about 85% in the morning and over 50% at the hottest part of the day. It's like breathing through a hot, wet rag on bad days. Boy, I sure do love AC.

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  18. My husband had a similar idea to use some old 5 gallon pots to bury in the ground for squash, but we hadn't thought about cutting out the bottom and adding the chicken wire. I'll have to share this with him!

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  19. Terrific idea...tough gardening with gophers my friend, no envy there. I too hit up my local bakery for free buckets. They are only too happy to be rid of them and we are thrilled to have them as they are indispensable on the homestead. Hope your project yields lots of tasty fruits.
    *anna
    oceannah.wordpress.com

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  20. I echo the praise for Siberian tomatoes! That is the actual name of a variety of roma tomato sold by Seed Savers Exchange. Best paste tomato I've ever grown here in New Hampshire!

    All your plans sound great!

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  21. I live in Texas, no worries about not enough "hot" weather, lol. I am anxiously awaiting my tomatoes. Tonight I had a grilled chicken salad with greens from my garden (Organic, of course). It was so tasty. I just discovered your facebook page and blog today, love it!

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  22. I love this idea!! You can still have a soaker hose running over the top of the buckets since they are not much off the ground. Also if you like, you can also use a tomato cage hoop out of reinforcing wire over each bucket to keep them in if you don't want to use the stakes. Where it is extra windy you might want a steak {even a shorter one sunk in the back of each bucket and a wire on the cage to it so it will stay up in high winds. I have the cages and have had the same ones for over 20 years. I made them about 5' tall for the indeterminate tomatoes. shorter for the determinate and peppers. Thanks ever so much for sharing this idea! It would work too for berry plant and grapes and such gofers love too. After years the chicken wire might need replacing as it may rust in the wet ground but this should work for a longgg time! Sarah

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  23. I saw an idea two years ago and use it. It is to bury a one gallon used plastic plant pot in the middle of the areas you plant in squash seed. Bury it like you did these tomato buckets but leave the bottoms on. In it put manure or compost up to say 3" from the top. The rim of the pot is to be slightly above ground level. Plant your 3 or so squash seeds or plants out from it several inches or more. The squash thus gets an light dose of fertilizer as you water into the bucket and the water goes deep into the soil as your pot has the bottom drainage holes in it. This has really helped me since I did this. I keep the pots in place and just replenish the compost or manure in it each season. I have also done this between tomatoes or in an area where other plants do not get good watering due to any circumstance. This way they get an extra watering deep and using the hose softly into their pot does not wash out any soil for the plants. This could be used by shrubs etc too. I think I saw this in an issue of Grow magazine couple of years back. Sarah

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  24. Here in SW Oklahoma (zone 7), we have the opposite problem. It gets way too hot for too long. In July and August, plants rarely set fruit because of this. So for practical purposes, we have two short seasons on either side of that. I'm thinking your method could also work here for planting extra early in the spring, so thanks for sharing. I hope it works well for you!

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  25. Oh I get the problem with the cooler climate, its often September before my tomatoes ripen! I love your planting idea, look forward to hearing if it is successful!

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