I hear you! Many a day I wondered these things myself. But now that I'm on the other side of meeting this challenge, I'm very glad I've given it a try and I'd like to share some thoughts that may help some of you make a decision one way or the other. Having a dairy goat is not for everyone, but I do believe it is a good fit for more of us than we realize.
Do I Know Enough To Start Raising Goats?
Learning about dairy goats isn't any harder than learning anything else in life. Books, blogs, and other on-line resources abound, but even if you want real life answers, I've found that goat people LOVE to talk about their four legged friends! It isn't that hard to find someone who is willing to share some knowledge and maybe even some personal hands on experience, but because a mentor will guide you in every aspect from selecting a goat to how you'll manage the herd, choose wisely and carefully! Here are some ways to locate people in your area:
• Attend a 4H meeting as a guest. You don't have to have children, just tell the leader you're an interested adult and that you are looking for a dairy goat mentor and would like to meet anyone connected to their club regarding goats.
• Contact your local FFA chapter or high school Ag teacher for possible leads.
• Look on Craig's List, newspaper, or other similar selling venues for people selling goats and ask if you can meet them and see their herd because you're considering getting into goats.
• Join some on-line forums for specific goat breeds or goats in general. Inquire about people in your area raising goats.
• Start a homesteading community group and ask your friends for leads. (I get most of my good local info from this source!)
• Visit a local farm that sells eggs, produce, or other items and ask if they know anyone. Farmers network, too, you know!
So if you find a lead and meet some people, find one that would be willing to mentor you in dairy goat knowledge. Ask to watch them trim hooves, deliver kids, milk, give medical care, and anything else that might come up. And be sure you really are reading books so you know how to ask good questions!
Is My Land Suitable?
Your next thought might be, is my land suitable? Really, the land size is not nearly as big of an issue as something like fencing, but I wanted to address the land issue because this is typically a bigger concern when one starts to think about getting a couple of dairy goats. You can change your fencing situation a lot easier than you can change your location! Oh, and by the way, for their safety, you will need to contain your goats when you're not with them unless you have superior knowledge for free ranging them correctly. But that would probably not be for most beginners.
Most people with a large piece of land won't worry about land size, but for those of us who don't have 10 acres or more, it's good to know that it doesn't take as much land as you might think. Depending on how you plan to feed them, you could raise a goat even in an urban area, but there are definite obstacles you would need to overcome, such as zoning laws, neighbors, and Homeowner Associations or CC&Rs. Just keep in mind that you do not want to raise only one goat (they are a herd animal and social, meaning they need a friend), bucks smell and it permeates the area, and some goats or noisier than others.
That said, Nigerian Dwarfs require less space and feed than a large goat like a Saanen, but then they don't give as much milk. You'll have to weigh your family's needs, dairy consumption, and space requirements to select a breed that will be the right fit for you. A good book, such as Storey's Guide to Raising Dairy Goats, will give you a synopsis of each so you can begin to think about a breed. For more information on raising goats in urban areas, visit The Goat Justice League. (Every goat breeder will tell you their breed it the best choice. PLEASE consider what you are comfortable with before deciding. It really isn't a one size fits all.)
Am I Ready For This Commitment?
This is the thing that kept me from getting a goat for years. For some reason it paralyzed me to the point I almost gave up the idea. After mentoring under a friend for over 2 years, I still didn't feel ready.
• Could I really milk twice a day, every. single. day. without. excuse?
• What about vacations?
• Could I help a doe deliver kids?
• Could I keep the milk clean enough that it would be safe to drink?
• Goats seemed so much more "sensitive" when it comes to feed. Was I ready to deal with that?
At some point I realized that I would never really know unless I actually did it. So after praying about it for several weeks, an opportunity presented itself that seemed to be the right fit for my family. I decided it was a now or never moment and far be it from me to not at least try!
Could I really milk twice a day? As it turns out, yes, I really can. It's pretty much like having an infant, but less demanding in that you don't have to milk 5 times a day! As long as you can carve out 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening, you can do it. Honestly, my mornings and evenings were the busiest part of my day and I didn't think I could make room for one more thing, but it's amazing what you can do when challenged. I'll talk more about our milking routine at another time, but routine IS a key word for milking. If you're already home when you wake up and back home for supper, you're at least in the right place at the time you need to milk. But if you're out and about every evening and eating dinner on the run, then maybe it's not the season in your life to get a goat quite yet. Maybe it's something you could work towards.
Vacations? We really don't go on a lot (typical of most homesteaders), but when we do, it's usually for 2-3 weeks at a time. Again, having a homesteading community is awesome for trading off with vacations. And often, other homesteaders have teenagers who are up to the job. Getting to know a few 4H or FFA students doesn't hurt either. And if you're really wise and thinking ahead, you'll find another person who has been hesitant to get into goats and you'll mentor them and teach them to milk. Letting them do this while you're on vacation might be just what they need to show them they can raise goats, too!
Delivering kids is way out of my comfort zone, but I've learned over the years that I can do a lot of things that I didn't think I could do. And having friends who are willing to help when kidding time comes is HUGE! Thank you in advance to all my local goat friends reading this who are going to help me when Fiona delivers! (Seriously, this is the third time I've mentioned it in this post alone... build a homesteading community network in your area!)
When we first started milking, I wouldn't let anyone in the family drink the milk. I either saved it to freeze for making soap or I fed it to the animals. And rightly so since we had trouble keeping it clean enough between the goat stepping in it or me not getting her prepped well. But once it started looking cleaner, drink it we did! Each person must be comfortable with their decision to drink raw milk, but you could still pasteurize it if you were super hesitant. Don't let contamination fears keep you from milking. People have been drinking this stuff for thousands of years! Unless your herd management and milking practices are grossly negligent, you'll be fine. Today we have the advantages of things like stainless steel milking pails, cleaners, filters, and disposable wipes or towels. So we're probably way ahead of the game on this one. Some people sterilize their equipment. Because I only use a milking pail and glass jars, we just wash everything really carefully with a dish soap that has grapefruit seed extract and orange peel extract to fight bad bacteria issues (we don't use a dishwasher because it doesn't work and I prefer hand washing anyway).
Finally, goats can be sensitive in terms of feed requirements, but it isn't that hard to learn. Like most everything in homesteading, it's finding out what you need to do and do it routinely. I haven't even begun to explore all my options regarding feed, but in the meantime, a basic feed regimen will give me time to research other choices. Eventually, I would love to find a renewable plant source that I could grow on my own property to meet their feed requirements, much like Marjory Wildcraft does with her meat rabbits. But that's probably down the road a bit.
I hope this has helped you with three major hurdles people face when considering goats. They certainly aren't the only things to consider; not by a long shot! This would be a good time for me to add a quick word about fencing and housing... Obviously these are two BIG issues one must consider as well. But typically if one has resolved the concerns I've already addressed above, then the fencing and housing is just a matter of budget, availability, and preferences. I think for most homesteaders, the old saying is true... where there's a will, there's a way! But perhaps that would be better stated as... if the Lord is willing, He'll provide a way!
What questions or concerns have kept you from considering goats as part of your homestead? Throw them out here and let's talk! And for those of you who are already keeping goats, feel free to chime in with your comments!



Having milking goats sounds wonderful, but unfortunately my hubby doesn't want goats on our farm ~ apparently they ring bark trees ~ is that true?
ReplyDeleteOne of the ladies down the road has goats & she makes soaps & lotions that are just lovely with the milk she gets!
Thanks for sharing & I hope you have a wonderful time with your goat endeavors!
Blessings
Renata:)
Renata,
DeleteI understand his concern, but I don't really know the answer to that. My mom had goats that climbed trees, but I didn't notice the bark missing. However, they weren't the loveliest of trees, either. Obviously they were the kind that lean over a bit or the goats couldn't have climbed them... a type of oak found in south Texas.
We have not allowed our goats to free range, nor do they have a big pasture because we don't have one, but we do have a brushy hillside. I just don't know enough at this point to let them browse on the hillside safely, so until I do, they stay confined in a corral. Sometimes we have to take intermediate steps to achieve our final goals so that the learning curve isn't too steep and confidence and knowledge is gained along the way. Hopefully, we can reclaim lost knowledge about free ranging goats correctly (with proper herd management) in time.
Hang in there... my husband wasn't on board at first, but I gave him time and eventually he wanted them, too. At that point, I felt free to move forward and bring some home. (Oh, and it helped that I took him with me to meet the goats before we decided! That did it, I'm sure!).
Yes! They will not only ring them but when you cut them down after they die they will eat the branches as well. Understand that goats are grazers. They would rather eat twigs and bark than grass. That shouldn't be a stop sign though. It's just something you have to deal with. I deal with it by wrapping chicken wire around the trees that I don't want them to eat. Problem solved.
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Jeff
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Valuable information, great to read! I am thinking about dairy goats and so appreciate your post. My husband grew up on a farm...their family had beef cattle. The lack of family vacation time has stayed with him and it's a concern. Thank you for your tips regarding that...perfect!
ReplyDeleteAnother wonderful post friend.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes you've stated all my fears. Good to know that Im not alone in the things that worry me the most.
Thank you for sharing.
Trace
www.grannytracescrapsandsquares.com
Thank you for this insightful post! We keep going back and forth between getting a dairy cow and a dairy goat, and I think a bit more research, on our part, is in order. I look forward to hearing more about your experiences!
ReplyDeleteWe are going to buy two dairy goats with our tax returns. I am a little nervous, but excited also. I worry about how to make the milking times work, but I know when it gets down to it you do what you have to do. I am excited about all the milk and eventually I want to learn how to make soap.
ReplyDeleteSuch a timely post for us! Thank you for all the advice and encouragement. Perhaps next year will be the year we dive in and add goats to our small homestead -- as the Lord wills, indeed!
ReplyDeleteGreat read, thanks :)
ReplyDeleteSo exciting to be almost back to milking isn't it. My doe is due late this year, May 1st. I can hardly wait, I have voved to sleep in the barn on a cot to keep watch over her and be there if anything should arise.
ReplyDeleteThe best advice I have for keeping the milk clean is to learn to milk into a glass jar and milk one teet at a time and move from each side. This gives each arm a workout and is a very clean method of collecting clean milk. I cap it as soon as I am finished milking and if it summertime and very hot, I take the wash pail and fill it with cold water form the tap and drop the jar of milk down into until I am finished tending to the rest of the animals. I have also learned to flash chill the milk by simply dropping a handful of ice cubes in the milk after straining.To flash chill the milk, I use an old square cooler, (lunch box size) add frsh water daily and I keep refreezing water bottles. Pour out about 2 inches of water, recap and freeze. This makes a nice way to have ice everyday and it doesn't melt nearly as fast.
Wishing you the best this season with the delivery of your little ones and happy milking.
Chanda
We're facing another bill for mower repairs. Today is March 1 and the mowing will begin. We have 4 acres w/ approx. 3 of them pasture. Every Spring-- I'm hit with if we had goats (or a calf) it would certainly eliminate the brunt of the mowing.
ReplyDeleteSo feed wouldn't be a problem for us.
~~The biggest part of my decision for NOT having a goat-- is the milking and caring time. I'm learning this through having chickens; that I only just started keeping in October of 2011; though completely different animals-- they do take a little time. I've read that when starting out on the homesteading journey it's best not to take on too much at once. So I'm pretty happy with just gardening and chickens.
~~ The other reason is fencing. Not all the property is fenced...that will come with time and money. Once I think the land is safe; maybe we could allow fellow homesteaders to bring their livestock here and let them eat my grass; while I observe and help in the care!
I liked this article and will check back for other's comments and responses.
have a great day ~ Pat
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DeleteHi great article. I also have dairy goats... started with 2 last year and now have 14 after having 6 kids this year! They really are addicting. The lack of vacation time is the worst part to me. You can always find someone to throw some feed to your cows or dogs, but goats are alot more maintenance and not many people want to milk.
DeleteI wanted to respond to the lady who mentioned getting goats to cut down her mowing.. goats make terrible mowers. They will pick and choose and browse and you will not be happy with the way your pasture looks. Get a cow or 2, they are good grazers. Goats will clean your fence lines and ditches but they don't mow grass!
Thanks for this! I just wrote this post To Milk or Not to Milk, That is the Question! http://blessingsandsimplicity.blogspot.com/2012/02/to-milk-or-not-to-milk-that-is-question.html yesterday. Did you write this post just for me? ;) We are struggling with the decision of if we should get a dairy animal, and if so goat or cow. Gleaning as much info as possible on the subject right now and this was very helpful. My biggest question with all of this is, will it be financially worth it. So how much in total would it cost to keep a couple dairy goats for one year?
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That's a really good question, Jessica! I don't know about a year, but I can break it down a bit more for you. I was spending $46 a month on raw cow milk. BUT that only gave me 3 gallons a month! No cheese, no yogurt, no cream or butter. Just 3 gallons of milk. I buy about one bale of alfalfa for $17 every week for 4 small goats - two of which are about to go back to the person who gave them to me because they're wethers and just pets at this point. So I'll be down to two does, which is what I wanted to begin with. So my feed will drop from around $68 a month to more like $34. That does not include supplies to get set up or a 4 way grain treat I feed while they are milking. Once I have the basic supplies on hand, the other items will be just here and there - teat wipes/wash, udder salves, teat spray, minerals, periodic medical needs, etc. Some of this I'm making from natural ingredients so the cost is negligible.
DeleteTo sum it up, I'm saving (or maybe breaking even on a less than ideal month). When both does are in milk, I'll have extra for stuff like yogurt and cheese which will further reduce my grocery costs for the same price I'm paying for feed.
As for the initial purchases such as fencing and shelter, water buckets, etc. I see this as a long term investment that will only increase the value of my land and give me more options for providing my own food. Hope this information helps!
Country Gal, I added the Linky Follow so you can connect. Hope that helps!
DeleteExcellent post! I have been debating on which would be better getting a dairy goat or cow. I love the idea of a community homesteading group, I will have to see about organizing one when people come to the community self-reliance fair I am organizing. Thanks again!
ReplyDeletewe're not at the season in life to have goats, but I'd love to buy goats milk! I grew up on the stuff from a local couple who had a bunch of goats and had too much milk! Unfortunately I haven't heard of anyone yet, but I may need to do some networking to see if there's anyone in the area that has too much goat milk. Maybe some 4-H group would know...
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Love this post! Thank you!
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This is such a useful and thorough post -- thank you! We're putting together a 101 library on HOMEGROWN and would love to include a brief excerpt on the 101 and a link to your original post. Is that OK with you?
ReplyDeleteWhat a great post Amy, thank you for your time to write it.... it really encourage me a whole lot more in the plans I see in my future!!
ReplyDeleteGoats will chew the bark off of trees and in the process kill the trees. Twice a day milking can be avoided by keeping baby on mom. Separate baby from mom at night, milk mom in the morning, then put baby with mom for the day. Watch out for CLL. This is contagious. If you have a goat with it and you have wood fencing, it will get into the wood and survive. I had a goat with CLL (unfortunately not aware of CLL and bought a goat with it). We got rid of the herd and after about 5 years got some new goats who I know did not have CLL. Within 1 year one of the goats had CLL. Vet told me it came from the wood.
ReplyDeleteGoats demand a lot of attention. We have now switched from goats to Irish Dexter cows. They are very small and docile. I am in the process of training a milk cow. And, they do not demand attention like goats.
Hi, I'm so excited! I have just discovered your blog! We have been thinking about raising goats ( I raised Saanens in 4-H about a million years ago) My two twenty-something sons have just gotten baby chicks AND we are going to start our own bee hives (we're almond farmers) Soooo you can imagine my excitement over your wonderful blog! I am looking forward to many evenings reading all of your posts! My 2nd blog I've just started is
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kim
This was lovely! This was great information! I've always wanted to get a goat, and this has inspired me to (eventually) get one! Unfortunately, I don't have the time for one right now (really). But someday...*sigh*... :D
ReplyDeleteExcellent post and great comments too. I'd love to someday have goats, but living in the city that's a bit tough. However, I do have a friend who is looking to reestablish her herd and she is more than willing to teach me what I need to know so I'll be ready when the time comes. Thanks for the extra "push" to just do it.
ReplyDeleteGreat article! I love how you mentioned utilizing FFA chapters and 4H clubs for help with selecting and caring for dairy goats. As a prepper and also an FFA Advisor, I am always looking for new opportunities for my FFA members. I wish more preppers/homesteaders would reach out to their FFA chapters and 4H clubs. Let us as advisors and the students help and answer questions. Not only does this benefit you but it also benefits students and gives them great opportunities. You may be helping give them that little spark to begin a life of self sufficiency. Thank you and don't be shy around your FFA advisors! We love to help. :)
ReplyDeleteI raise Nubian Dairy goats and absolutely love them. Visit our blog at homeschoolblogger.com/4dfarms
ReplyDeleteHi, I was simply checking out this blog and I really admire the premise of the article and this is really informative. This is really informative and I will for sure refer my friends the same. Thanks
ReplyDeleteI came across this blog via pinterest. I am just learning about goats. I have one doe and not sure what kind she is? She was given to us and I keep her chained up and mover her periodically to graze.I also feed her meat goat feed. She will eat the bark off the tree and the weeds along the fence line. I am hoping to make her a little corral in the near future when money allows. I am hoping to kid her when I know for sure what kind she is and how old she is for sure. I have asked someone who use to raise goats and EVEN HE wasn't sure what kind she is. She sorta resembles a pygmy and spanish goat. She's small and black and white in color. I don't think she will give much milk but I really only wanted it to make soaps and cheese. Anyhow, thank you for this blog it has been helpful to me. I am now following you and enjoy reading about your homesteading endeavors. Keep the helpful info coming. I'm new to homesteading and really could use all the help I can get. LOL. Thank you again for taking the time to educate those of us who are trying to make better home lives for our families and communities. You are appreciated :)
ReplyDeleteGreat post! I'm very appreciative as a new homesteader :) We are converting an old storage building and prepping for our arrivals this spring! I'll be following this blog for sure!
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing this information. We go through so much milk in our house. We have been considering milk goats. There were a lot of things going through our minds, but it all comes down to cost and whether or not it would work.
ReplyDeleteWe have five acres and plenty of space for a few dairy goats. We do not want a buck and understand we would need to find a place to breed our goats. I tell the kids daily it will be a slow process. We are currently getting our start in homesteading and chickens were our first step out. Gardening is our next...then goats. I appreciate those people who are willing to be honest about goats and all the work involved. It makes it easier to make the step forward.