So, let me tell you what NOT to do in beekeeping.
Going foundationless was actually a good thing. It only took them a week to build out 75 percent of an eight frame shallow super (I don't have a deep super on this hive, but perhaps I should!). Feeding the bees sugar water to get them started was also a good thing. Adding another super - fine. According to the apiculturist at UC Davis, it was a non-issue. I had a nice chat with him on the phone and learned a few things.
Stopping the sugar water was fatal.
Yes, I made the wrong assumption that a heavy pollen load meant plenty of nectar. And being inexperienced, I didn't realize that the bees needed lots of honey stores or some sugar water with a cool spell and rain that hit and lasted for about 5 days.
You see, the little bees fan to keep the warm air moving through the hive and to keep the brood and queen alive. They will actually cluster around the queen to try and save her by keeping her warm. They'll also feed her while they are starving. And starve they did.
They needed more carbs to keep up with the work of keeping the queen and brood warm. And they didn't have it. It's been a week and I still nearly cry each time I open the hive box and look inside to see how they're doing. I took a picture of a frame so you could see what it looks like so you'll recognize it if this happens to you (but I'm sure you'll be smarter than me!). I've knocked off the dead bees that were clinging to it, but you can see the other bees that were digging in the comb looking for food and then died. Pitiful. {teary...}
I hope I haven't made another colossal mistake, but I decided to remove this frame and replace it with a fresh one. Normally bees will clean out dead brood, but there's just so much - and dead worker bees, too! I'm only removing one, but I want to see if they'll start fresh and draw new comb on a frame. They weren't really paying attention to this frame and the queen was a few frames over, so I decided to risk it, because there wasn't much to salvage here except some comb; and only if it was cleaned out.
Needless to say, I'm feeding them ample sugar water at this point. According to the apiculturist I talked to, I can stop feeding them if there is mucho honey in them there combs! Say a whole super full.
I've learned my lesson and it won't happen again. I just wished I'd realized sooner. I'm having to teach myself everything because the closest beekeeping class is 2.5 hours away in LA. And that's on a good day without traffic! However, I've found a few good sites:
Sunset One Block Diet: Team Bee
Beekeeping Naturally @ Bush Farms
Mistress Beek
Backwards Beekeepers
I really appreciate all the kind comments I've received. So many have struggled with beekeeping, too. They're certainly a bit more fragile than say... chickens. But I'm already hooked. If this group doesn't make it, I'll be saving pennies to buy more next season, for sure!
P.S. Pip the Cottontail didn't make it. :-(
Thank you for all your kind words, emails with great advice, and prayers.

What a fascinating read - I just learnt so much about a subject I know nothing about! I really do hope your hive pulls through. At least you were able to create an accurate diagnostic for what the problem was and start over. And sorry to hear Pip the Cottontail didn't pull through. But this is all part of it, as they say, and if anything, teaches us tremendous respect for Nature and the world around us. Thanks for maintaining this blog - I love reading it!
ReplyDeleteBlessings,
This Good Life
I give you lots of credit for handling bee's ! Have a great day !
ReplyDeleteMy condolences on Pip, but from experience I can say you were fighting a near impossible battle. You have to take comfort in knowing you did all you could.
ReplyDeleteI am reading and learning alongside you with the bees. A painful lesson but think about all of us you are helping by sharing.
It's refreshing to see what you shouldn't do when raising bees. All too often I read what to do, what to do. What you've written can help some folks more than what we should be doing. Good luck with the rest of the season & winter!
ReplyDeleteHi Amy.
ReplyDeleteI took a beekeeping class late winter/early spring and just got my bees 2 1/2 weeks ago. I have been amazed at how much sugar water my hive has gone through. I filled a 16oz jar 2x and then replaced it with a 32oz jar and have since filled that 2x!
There really is a LOT to keeping bees-I've been telling people they are more complicated than chickens! Don't get discouraged! Just keep going and keep learning-you will be fine!
Lisa
Hi Amy.
ReplyDeleteWhat about a beekeeper's club? Surely there is one near to you?
Lisa
I found your site recently and love it!
ReplyDeleteIm sorry about your bees and the bunny. I would be so upset too.
We moved to the country 5 years ago and I am learning as I go. I grew up in a small city but country life is so different and I love every minute! We just recently got chickens and I have learned a lot from your site. Thanks! I'm off to make homemade deodorant! :)
I'm glad you posted the "what not to do". I find that alot of what we do is trial and error. I do my research and part of that is learning from someone elses mistakes as well as our own.
ReplyDeleteAw. I don't even have bees (yet) but I can see that I would get just as attached to them. It's too bad that you lost some of them but hopefully they'll recover well. Keep us posted.
ReplyDeleteOh, the lessons we learn through 'homesteading'! Keeping any animal has it's learning curve. Don't give up! Hang in there!
ReplyDeleteAnd, thanks for sharing all the wisdom you're learning~
We hope to have bees, too, someday, and I'm taking notes on all this :)
Bees are so important to all of us. I'm praying for yours.
ReplyDeleteI live in suburbia and country life intimidates me. But I do love your blog and a glimpse at a life, so not my own. More than anything, I like your tender heart that grieves over something as little as bees. I ruthlessly squashed 'bugs' or 'anything creepy crawly', but now I understand better the way nature and God's creation works and the difference between pests and beneficial organisms. Thank you for that.
ReplyDeleteOnly a farmer/homesteader can truly empathize...and I do! I admire your determination and efforts, and IF we ever do bees (which I would like) I'll be soaking up all your wisdom. Have a great day~
ReplyDeleteKathy
Despite the rewards, sometimes homesteading is just plain hard! I'm so sorry that you've lost so many bees, but its great that you have a queen & hopefully enough bees to get things going again. Do you know Stacia & Rob that live near Tangleweed? Here's their bee blog: http://tehachabeehoney.wordpress.com/
ReplyDeleteThey started with bees here last year & now have 5 hives (including a swarm hive they caught recently)...two are not doing so great, but three are. They might be a good local resource if you haven't chatted with them.
Thanks, for the link Ginger. I met them last year, but have not stayed in touch. Perhaps I'll contact them.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate all the encouraging comments everyone! Thank you!
Two questions that I have after reading your blog. Hope I do not offend and sorry for the hijack.
ReplyDelete1. How do you deal with dead animals ? You have dogs I presume, so how do you keep them from digging up dead animals ?
2. Is it safe to eat a chicken that has say been injured by a coyote and died as a result of it's injuries and not disease.
I am so sorry about your bees. We have been so busy homesteading that I haven't had time to read the blogs and missed what was going on. We just picked up our two nucs yesterday and I have already let my son read this post so that he can learn from it. Thank you for sharing the do's and dont's. I pray that the rest of your bees thrive!!
ReplyDeleteI don't blame you for wanting to cry but, when one is starting out on something like beekeeping, one can easily make mistakes. We made ours when we didn't put in another super to make more room for our bees. When we checked, we saw quite a few deads bees that actually drowned in their overloaded combs but, rectified it quick enough to save most of them. We keep tabs on that, now. You'll keep getting better at beekeeping and be a pro in no time.
ReplyDeleteExperience is the best teacher. Good luck with reviving your hive. I hope that they reproduce. Sorry about Cotton Tail. JB
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, we bury our animals outside the fenced dog area on the back of our property. You could try spraying the ground where you bury something with a natural spray like Repels All. I wouldn't eat anything killed by a coyote because you don't know what diseases it may have passed on to the chicken.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the tips (sorry you had to learn it that way, though!) We've just started beekeeping and don't have any classes near us, either, so we're learning as we go, too. Good luck with yours!
ReplyDeleteThe elderly gentleman who gave me my first hive told me "there's a lot to it" and almost didn't give them to me because he had so little faith in me...LOL. He was right, there surely is a lot to it. I imagine it takes several years to develop a good eye and a working understanding of what goes on in a beehive.
ReplyDeleteI tried to go foundationless my first year and had a lot of problems too. Mostly finding out how very picky bees are about their set up! I decided to go ahead and work "by the book" with a regular Lang for now until I can get the hang of things.
Joining my local association was the best thing ever! I found out that many of them are into natural beekeeping methods and don't like to use medications on their bees either, which really surprised me. They LOVE to help you and share information. And they really love the bees. I needed the support and they are glad to give it and will even come out and work the bees with you.
I love the Backwards Beekeepers blog too. I learn so much from them. I especially like the swarm rescues.
I'm sorry to hear about Pip. I just read that post before this one and commented a day late. :(
I'm following your beekeeeping closely. I almost lost all my bees too.(for the 2nd time) Just so cold. Thanks for the beekeeping sites --I'm going to check them out.
ReplyDeleteAs sad as it is, this is a great post, Amy. You are such a good teacher!! We are hoping bees will be in our future one day and I know right where we're coming for some helpful insights- to you! I hope the rest of your week is full of joy, love and graces:-).
ReplyDeleteAs a Homesteader~~when I bury an animal, I:
ReplyDelete1. dig deep.
2. use an entire jar/container of cheyenne pepper over body;
3. use an entire jar/container of black pepper over body;
4. put rocks on that & body.
Haven't ever had problems w/ body being disturbed.
~~just sayin'. *-* Virginia
I am so sorry to hear about Pip. I kind of knew this was going to happen. When I was a kid we had baby bunnies a few different times and they always died. One thing I do remember hearing is that you should not handle them much and, of course, that is what kids do, and adults, too. Hard to resist that softness.
ReplyDeleteI am believing your bees are going to do great. Wouldn't you love it, though, to not have to learn these things the hard way?!?
I'm so sorry about the bees, and Pip ;( We live and learn. You have now reminded me that maybe we need to refill our sugar water this evening. They went completely out when we last checked it on Monday. I don't think they had been out long. That had lasted them about 2 weeks. Must check it out tonight! Next up - bee hat/jacket combo for at least one of us! We're relying on our "Bee Boss" to get into the hive and do the more up close and personal work. But eventually, we'll have to do it. So far, they've been quite polite and forgiving.. but let's face it, they're bees and it could change! Thanks for the pictures and advice. I think it will help a lot of folks, including me! Again, so sorry though. However, I do see more bees in your future! -Tammy
ReplyDeleteI sympathize with your bee experience. It's been a live and learn process for me as well. One of the things the guy who has helped me (a former president of GA beekeepers assn) said was that when feeding in the spring, you feed until the bees stop eating the feed--then you know they've got enough to eat and sustain themselves.
ReplyDeleteI've had bees for 5 years now and I'm still learning! But I love how God created them--they're amazing to watch!
Sorry about the bees and the bunny. Sounds like a rough spring. Keep your head up. Your story probably helped many others that are starting or have started hives.
ReplyDeleteWow~I really enjoyed your post although I hate to see the sadness in the challenge! Be encouraged, I think you're doing a great job! It's fascinating to know that about how the bees will protect their queen even at their own cost. You've really been my first exposure to beekeeping and I'm becoming fascinated. I see how this, like everything else with nature can be used as a teaching tool for my children! It seems you are being a good steward over what you've been blessed with. So just remember that God will bring beauty from ashes and that there is true even with these little fellas! Hope you have a great night! Your blog is one of my fav's and definatly and inspiration! God Bless!
ReplyDeleteI appreciate you sharing. I'm hoping to get bees in the near future and appreciate any info I can find. Sorry about the bunny.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting about the bee keeping, well I know this is not about bees but once when I was a young girl, I had two rabbits (we got them from a rabbit meat farm so I saved their lives I always thought) ok so the female rabbit (or so I thought was the female) became pregnant and when the babies were born I took the male (which was actually the female) and separated her from the babies all the while thinking this was the male (male rabbits kill the babies, well what do u think happened, yes the babies got killed by the male who was given free reign to the babies all the while poor mom rabbit was being kept away from her newborns...how awful is this! The good news is that we found out that the male was the smaller rabbit and the female the bigger one, so when we mated them and had babies again, we separated the correct rabbit and had a successful litter of bunnies, if that is what you call them...Well I am glad that you are learning about the bees even though it did not work out that well at first, that is how we learn.
ReplyDeleteTake care
I envy your intelligence and determination.
ReplyDeletePeace and Raw Health,
Elizabeth