Friday, June 10, 2011

The Freedom Rangers

These are not ordinary chickens. Despite their adorable little faces, they're not what they seem. No. These are Freedom Rangers being raised specifically for meat.


When I decided to raise chickens for meat, I didn't want to raise the vastly more popular Cornish Cross for several reasons. But at the top of the list was the fact that I was uncomfortable about consuming their meat.  Cornish Cross have been known to eat themselves to death, dying of heart failure and quite possible, other ruptured organs such as enlarged gall bladders. Apparently, if allowed to eat feed all day, they would gorge themselves, yet at some point they get so heavy that their feet can't support their weight and they won't even get up to get a drink of water. They don't forage, reproduce, or wander much around the chicken yard. All this just doesn't seem natural and has given me cause to pause and consider other options.



Instead, I opted to try Freedom Rangers which are said to be similar to the birds raised in France and other countries for the Label Rouge program. They are known to happily peck, scratch, and forage a bit more and act like a regular chicken. While they don't get quite as large as a Cornish Cross and they must be raised a few weeks longer, many feel the taste of the bird is worth the extra feed and time. 



That's all fine a good, but you need to know that my experience with the Freedom Rangers has shown me they're much more like Cornish Cross than a heritage breed dual purpose chicken such as a Buff Orpington. (Keep in mind that the "Meat Bird" or "Broiler" category which includes both Cornish Cross and Freedom Rangers is a relatively new concept.)


First, these chicks act like they're starving all the time! Despite having full crops, they continue to act like they weren't fed for days. When I refill the feeder (which I do often), it's a feeding frenzy and every chick for himself...




I bought a new large feeder today so that I won't have to keep refilling it with feed. 


Second, they are having severe leg issues. I've raised quite a few chicks and never have I had any with problems with their little legs going out from under them constantly to where they can't stand up. It's so sad to see them like this. Breaks my heart! And three have died already as a result. 

Forgive the messy coop floor. While they've had access to an enclosed run, I have not been able to put them out in the yard in the chicken tractor due to the cool weather, but tomorrow they graduate and the coop will be cleaned out.

I should mention that the leg issues might be a result of the feed rather than the breeding. Everyone in my homesteading group who ordered these chicks together also used the same feed - except for one individual who used another feed. We all had chicks with leg issues except the one who used the other feed. Hmmm... makes me wonder. And if that isn't evidence enough, another homesteader fed the same feed to her turkeys and they had leg issues as well. I plan on contacting the company to see if they've had any complaints.

At this point, I would not opt to raise Freedom Rangers again. My experience has been too much like that of raising the Cornish Cross. But I have to weigh the fact that the feed could have been part of the issue and once they're out in the grassy area, I may feel differently. But even if I the rest of their short lives goes relatively smoothly and their meat is fabulous, I plan on raising a heritage breed this fall just to compare the difference (see a related chart here). I'm keeping notes on the expenses as well as the experience and I'll let you know what I think after it's all said and done.

I also wanted to share my new watering system... chicken nipples. I purchased these with the homesteading group as well and then inserted them into the bottom of a bucket using the nipples with rubber grommets. The chicks then tap the nipple with their beak and water comes out. What a difference! The new chicks figured it out almost immediately and the waterer is so much easier to clean and refill, plus it doesn't need to be replenished as often. If only it had a lid - but it's not a big deal because it still stays cleaner than any waterer I've used before.


Once in a while I bleach it by setting the bucket inside another bucket (so the nipples don't get damaged by setting it down on the ground or in a sink) and then I let it soak that way for about an hour. Time will tell if the bleach will break down the rubber grommet, but it's pretty diluted, so I hope it won't. To hang it on the wall, I used a bucket with a flat back (a horse bucket from the feed store) and set it in a bracket that is attached to the wall (also from the feed store). When I move the Freedom Rangers out to the chicken tractor, they'll have to go back to using a regular old waterer, and the new layers will get a chance to try the chicken nipples. I purchased several so I hope to switch over entirely to these very soon!

I'd like to hear your experience with Freedom Rangers and Heritage Breeds. Which do you prefer? 

52 comments:

  1. Our first experience with chickens we got a few Cornish cross. I was so disturbed by how they got so big they couldn't stand. They were soon covered in their own waste and I swore I would never get another. We don't raise chickens for meat now, only eggs. We got the water nipples last year and they are so superior to any other system. As you said, the water stays cleaner, and if we have to go for the weekend all we havt to do is have the neighbor boy gather the eggs. The bucket we use holds more than enough water for the weekend. We got an icing bucket from the grocery store bakery for free that came with a lid so the water doesn't get the dust from the coop in it.

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  2. Did you get yours from J.M Hatchery in PA? Our batch of 25 are about 8-10 weeks old and they've been doing great. We had one little runt which died, but overall we're pleased with the growth and survival rate.

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  3. We're feeding our Freedom Rangers once every 12 hours and it is a feeding frenzy at first, but we were marveling a couple nights ago how they don't stay until it's gone. About 1/2 were off drinking water from the little stream running through the pasture. This never would have been the case with the Cornish. Considering what you're saying here, I wonder if they are getting a great deal from actual ranging then.

    As to losses, I'm not impressed at all! We're down 11 birds! I'd have to talk with my boys, but I'm thinking that health issues were the cause of maybe 5 of them. (The others mysteriously disappeared which is our fault for not protecting them properly I guess.)

    I really ping back and forth about wanting to raise these guys again right now.

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  4. I don't have any experience with "meat breeds" as of yet, but I'm definatly interested in what you experience. I'm hoping to add some in next year, depending on how things go this year with our new coop.

    And I have to find something like those nipples asap! Everynight I fill and clean the waterer that we have, and every morning it's filled with gunk, stopping it up and making a huge mess!

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  5. I would like to see more pictures of your waterer. Where did you get your nipple attachments and do you think they would fit a 5 gallon bakery bucket? Thank you for your post.

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  6. Very curious about the leg problems (poor things)and perhaps the feed..I would be interested to know if it turns out to be connected. We have found a new feed we are very happy with but is also very expensive. It is non GMO, no soy and no corn. We only have the 12 chickens and a rooster and probably wouldn't be cost effective for a large production.

    Have a wonderful weekend.

    P.S. I still have a sticky note on my computer monitor about your daughter in Asia, so I think about and say quick prayers for your family all day. xo

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  7. Amy I don't have an experience, but your post is very informative. I didn't know about this breed, and certainly didn't know the feed could cause a problem. I've really appreciated your post today because I love learning something new! Thanks. Have a Happy Weekend! Hugs!

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  8. Sorry Amy...I don't have any experience with either of them.
    Something I worry about all the time when I purchase chicken at the market is the amount of hormones that these chickens have received...is it at all possible to just find normal chickens that have not received all this foreign stuff into their bodies? Something I would love to know about and if so, where do you find them..
    Have a great weekend..

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  9. For good meat birds, we like the Vantress Cross, used a broiler chick starter, which has a higher protein mixture that just regular chick starter, and extra minerals in their water. Did not have the leg issues as the Cornish Crosses we raised the year before (yes, never again.) It is true the CC's will eat until they can't, but in good fields in chicken tractors, they were still a LOT more active and healthier. For egg layers, we loved our Isa Browns. http://www.townlinehatchery.com/ has some good information on the Vantress crosses.

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  10. I have a couple of layer chicks that I am currently raising. I picked up a small bag of chick starter from the local feed store. I noticed that when I went to refill their feeder, I got the same feeding frenzy that you described. I went to another feed store and picked up the Encore brand of chick starter and have noticed a tremendous difference. The chicks are excited to see the feeder be refilled but the feeding frenzy has disappeared. I take this to mean that the new feed is much more nourishing. And in hindsight, I realized that I just switched feeds on the chicks without any transition and the switch was without consequence. If you do decide to switch feeds, I recommend the Encore brand.
    Lisa

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  11. I left out an important bit of information. We used a soy free organic broiler chick starter with a protein content of 22 percent. I also used a mineral supplement in the waterer for 3 weeks specifically for broilers. So I feel we gave them every advantage that we could.

    As far as the hatchery, I don't remember where we go them since I didn't place the actual order. If you're looking to raise meat chickens, there aren't many hatcheries that sell Freedom Rangers. Lots sell Cornish Cross. The only other option is a Heritage Breed which are easily available at many hatcheries. If you're wanting to purchase just the meat, check online at Maryschickens.com and email them for store locations.

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  12. http://tcbokbok.blogspot.com/2010/03/checklist-to-start-your-flock.html

    I found a better link describing what protocol we follow to have healthy chicks. The powder you add to their water is an electrolyte and vitamin mixture that strengthens their legs.

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  13. I'm finding it very interesting reading about the differences in breeds you have over there. We mainly raise Rhode Island Red and Bantams here in England, both for eggs, the RIR for meat too. So sad that they seem to have a suicidal genetic tendancy, who'd have thought it? Thanks for the great information, your blog is very inspiring! Carly

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  14. Several have asked about the chicken nipples. I have a link in the article to the place we purchased ours (the link was not showing up so I adjusted the color and you should be able to see it better - now in red). They have two kinds - a push in type which I used on my water bucket and a screw in type which is believe is used on pvc pipe if you're using that to deliver water to your birds. Email Neill through the link I added and he could probably help you decide which kind you need. And yes, you can use a 5 gallon bakery bucket. Save the lid and use it with it to keep it even more clean!

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  15. Sherri B. - THANK YOU For praying!! She's flying there right now!!

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  16. We've raised both the Cornish x and a breed like the Rangers simultaneously to see which we liked better and to compare the birds side by side.

    We liked having 2 different butchering times. We also only fed them 3-4x/day rather than free feed. Doing this prevented leg problems in the Cornish x. We've never had leg problems in the breed like the Rangers. Someone recommended this feeding method to us and it worked great.

    We also had our Cornish x's in a tractor where they could easily move about. We'd put the feed at the opposite end of the tractor and they would walk to it. This helped to keep them exercised and mobile.

    We have also butchered our own large breed roosters. My butcherers' collective opinion is that there isn't enough meat on them to justify the time it took to butcher them. If that was all we had, then fine. But to order them for meat? They didn't go for that one at all.

    I prefer buying 1/2 cornish x birds and 1/2 akin to Rangers birds at the same time, raise them all at the same time, but have 2 or 3 different processing days dependent upon the variation of sizes. This allows us to process more birds but not to the point of exhaustion and dreading to do it again in the future.

    The last time we raised meat birds, we ended up with a horrible, terrible storm with thunder and lightening and flooding 2 days before we were planning on butchering. The birds started dying of fright (and some drowned because they were too stupid to go under cover!) so we butchered them in the pouring rain outside, bled them, brought them inside and processed them inside. Poor Callan was drenched to the bone as she was the one running out to the dying chickens, bringing them up to the deck and butchering them, amidst the lightening and flooding! It was a day we will ALL remember!

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  17. Wonderful post ! On our farm as a kid growing up all our animals were free range ! We called the chickens that were kept in a small like factory cause thats what it is "Battery Hens" ! Back in the older days of farming all there was, was freerange or as they call it now a days "Organic" there wasnt much factory run farms ! Have a great day and coodles to you for being a freerange farmer !

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  18. Thanks for the link, Anonymous. Always helpful to see what others are doing and how it works for them.

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  19. Momma of 10 ~ That's quite a story!! (Re: butchering during the storm). Does NOT sound like fun! But sometimes we have to do what we have to do. Thanks for the tips on raising the two side by side. The chicks I hatched last week in the incubator was for 1/2 white rock and 1/2 dark cornish (I think!!) and a friend is going to raise them for meat to see how she likes them. They were her eggs but I hatched them and then she's raising them (4 H project). It will be interesting to see how big they fill out because I agree that trying to keep this all cost effective is highly important!

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  20. We have 28 chickens: Buff Orpington, Barred Rock, Americaunas, Leghorn, and Rhode Island Red. We purchased them all at the same time 1 1/2 years ago. Two of these breeds are dual-purpose, but as of yet we only use them all for eggs.
    I was very interested in reading your 'finds' as next year we want to raise some specifically for butchering. I think the Heritage Breeds are good options. Thanks for sharing your experience~

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  21. We did Freedom Rangers last fall and loved the outcome. I have 22 left out of 25 in the tractor right now and we hope to do another batch later in the summer. We are very happy with them compared to our experience with the Cornish Cross - yuk! We are trying our own homemade feed this time after giving them one bag of chick starter. I'll post about our homemade feed on my blog some time next week. Probably for the barn hop on Monday.

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  22. Very informative post and comments! Hubby and I are hoping to add chickens next year.

    Just a thought though on cleaning your bucket in bleach...if you are worried about how it might break down your nipple try to clean it in Vinegar instead. I do that w/ all my buckets.

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  23. Great post. We did 3 batches of Cornish X last year and I didn't like them at all. They were just a mindless flurry at feeding time and squawky and stupid the rest of the time. No personality at all, compared to our heritage breed laying hens. That said, we didn't have any significant health issues. I just didn't really enjoy them much, like I do our hens. We're not sure if we're going to try them again or just stick with our heritage breeds. They just take so much longer to grow out...

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  24. I just love all your articles in this blog! I am so GLAD I read this before getting my meat birds this year. It has been cold here and so I have had a little extra time. I did the Cornish Cross years and years ago and was NOT looking forward to them... now I will probably use your advice and stay away from these types of birds altogether.

    THANKS!
    Michele
    *~*~*
    owner, http://www.TalkForTots.com

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  25. We don't have meat birds as we've only enough space for a few pet chickens. However, I will bookmark this for reference later.

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  26. I haven't heard of the Freedom Fighters, very interesting. I have raised Cornish Cross for several years (not this year because they were really expensive!). However, have never had the problem with their legs and some I raised were 15-16 pounds when they were butchers.
    Two years ago, I wondered 100 birds and our neighbor took 25 to raise. He came over with questions about their legs because they were breaking and he had to butcher by 10 weeks or so because they couldn't stand. We both started with chick starter and switched to a high protein. The main difference was the amount of food. He said they seemed to hungry so he was giving them more and more food. I rationed mine out to what was appropriate and if they wanted more they could peek through the grass or straw bedding.
    They are tricky because I always say it's like watching a teenager boy attack the refridgerator!

    This year I ordered a heavy breed mixture so see how they compare to the cornish cross because the price on the cornish was so high. We'll see by the end of the summer! :)

    Thanks for the information!

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  27. Great post. I too have avoided growing meat birds because of the "unnatural" issues with breeding for size above all else. I've looked into Freedom Rangers and heard mixed results, so will be interested in your outcome. If one can find organic or non GMO feed, what is the big deal about soy/corn? Just curious.

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  28. Wow! This is some great conversation! Lisa, a local friend had suggested limiting the feed, but then the gal who ordered birds with us said that one of the things that appealed to her about FR over CC was that you didn't need to limit the feed. But it could very well be contributing to our issue. I don't completely free feed, but I'm not exactly measuring it out either.

    Jennifer, soy seems to act a bit like the hormone estrogen, so I don't want to ingest a lot more since I'm on natural hormones anyway. Corn, is good for fattening up an animal (and a human). I wouldn't sweat the corn as long as you know it's GMO free.

    Allison, that's a brilliant idea. I keep forgetting that Vinegar is a great product. I'll definitely switch!

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  29. I've raised Freedom Rangers and actually really enjoyed them. We had 1/25 with a leg issue and 1 that died of, we think, a heart attack. The others were raised on organic chick starter and then organic broiler developer. They started spending time outdoors around 3 weeks old and by 5 weeks were spending all their time in a very secure chicken tractor. We moved them 2x a day because they ate and scratched up so much grass.
    Mine were also from JM Hatchery. I wonder if that makes a difference.
    This year we are raising an old line of barred rocks that have been bred for big, meaty birds for generations. They are taking a long time but they are big-framed birds so we expect quite a bit of meat in the end.
    We are also raising 'red broilers' to see what they're like too. I guess that would be something like your 1/2 white rock 1/2 dark cornish? It'll be interesting to see if they are just another industry-promoted solution to the serious problems of the cornish cross.

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  30. Amy, if you decide to go with a Heritage Breed, Dominiques are wonderful dual-purpose chickens and have long been known for their excellent tasting meat. During much of the 19th century it was the most popular breed on small farms and homesteads. I just can't say enough good things about the Dominique! In my experience, the roosters grow to be quite large and they are good for processing. Hens are more on the smallish side I think. Also, because of their excellent foraging abilities, they won't consume very much in feed, saving you lots of $$$. I don't even have to fill my small feeder but every few days because they just don't want to eat much of it- they'd much rather be out catching bugs!!

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  31. Thank you for the info on the nipples....I will have to check that out.
    I raise all different kinds of chickens, americanas, anconas, buff orps, Rhode Island red, and my favorite, brahmas. Brahmas are a large dual purpose breed. They a little slow to mature, but very docile and great foragers. They might be an option for a broiler bird. I know I have contemplated butchering them just because of their size.

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  32. I love visiting your blog as I learn something new even when I do not raise chickens. Who knew feed could affect chicken growth ? And leads me to think if feed can affect a chicken thus, how food can affect us humans ?
    Can I ask if you eat your chickens raised for eggs ? Do these meat birds never lay eggs ?
    Thank you.

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  33. HI Amy, This is really interesting. I'm sorry that some of your chickens are having problems. Have you heard back from the company that you purchased the feed from? What is the difference between that feed and the one that your one homestead friend used..(the person who didn't have any issues with their ch ickens?)

    Who thought I'd get so excited about chickens, but this has been really interesting to read about the adventures and the small things that are so important for raising good birds ;) :)

    have a great weekend. love and hugs from Oregon, Heather :)

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  34. I also use the chicken nipples. Only on a PVC pipe that is hooked up to a 16 gallon water tank that I only have to refill about every 3 weeks. I will be posting on that soon. Thanks for all the great info on the Freedom Rangers. I hope it was just the feed that made their legs bad. I would like to hear about everything when you are completely done with them. I Plan on purchasing my meat birds more in August or September to butcher in cooler weather.

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  35. I raised White Rocks two years ago and am now raising Cornish X for the first time. I would not do the White Rocks again, they took sooo long to grow, it was months and months of worrying and feeding and watering and worrying some more. I have been very pleased with the Cornish X. As I type they are 8 weeks old, most are big enough to butcher this weekend, the rest will be butchered next weekend. They forage just fine, I had them in a tractor, but we quickly got in the 100+ temperature range here and it was just too hot, I lost 3 to lack of shade so we let them free range instead, locking them in at night. It has been working great, they don't have leg issues, they walk and run and act like any other chicken I've had. I think giving them room and access to pasture early on has helped. I would not choose to do a dual purpose again, despite the fact I like the idea, it just doesn't work here on my homestead...

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  36. This is such a good topic. We raise the Cornish Cross. I generally let Hubby take care of them because they are- GROSS- they eat poop and drink and truly don't have much of a personality. Since Hubby started working for the Wells, my son has been taking car of them. We don't use chick starter and our local Feed Mill strted making a Broiler feed which I found much better than what I was buying. I haven't had leg issues as I have had in the past. I think I mentioned before that if you are experiencing leg issues give them raw liver it fixes them right up.I know it sound gross, but do you see all the stuff they eat on their own? My laying hens are better mousers than my cat!
    I like the fact that they are grown in 8 weeks. We do two batches, one in Spring and one in Fall. It fills my freezer without having to spend months and months raising them. I know what I'm feeding my birds and how clean I try to keep the pen.
    That being said, I wouldn't mind trying another "meat" bird. I have done fryers before but a two pound stringy bird after 17 weeks is disappointing.
    I think most of homesteading is trial and error and the experience good and bad teaches us new lessons!

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  37. We decided to not go with the Cornish Cross as well. It just doesn't seem natural to us. We bought 50 Buff Orpington chicks and have only lost 5. Three died when they were little and two died in the last few weeks; death by pecking. They are doing pretty well and should be ready to be butchered with in the next month or two. I hope the rest of yours fair well until butchering time!

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  38. I agree with your thoughts on the cornish cross, I was wondering what other options there were, and now I think I just may stick to Wyandottes or B.Oph.'s :) I love your new look too!

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  39. We use the nipples as well. Currently all our chickens are in tractors. My husband used a PVC pipe that runs the length of the tractor and it's piped to a 5 gallon bucket outside the tractor. I believe Monica has a similar system. I love the lack of work it requires. Thanks for the post!

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  40. This is apparently a very hot topic with everyone - and I'm thrilled. It seems that these birds lack consistency which could be due to some of their breeding not being very consistant. Kind of like Ameraucanas. They're all over the board. The discussion really has given me some good thoughts to think on.

    I know I'm overlooking someone's question. Forgive me if I accidentally miss responding...

    Anonymous, I have layers and I have meat birds (FR). I could slaughter some of my layers, but I like to keep them somewhat separate. I probably need to get over that and start eliminating some layers that are no longer laying. I have not allowed my girls to handle the FR as chicks because they were designated as meat from the beginning. No need for me to worry... after about 2+ weeks, they didn't act very cute. Anyway, I think the FR's could lay eggs, but they will not produce true to type if I' not mistaken. They are a cross breed just like Cornish Cross, just a different mix. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

    Heather, the feed the one individual used was NOT a high protein feed, it was not organic, and I believe it was medicated. A standard feed. I haven't contacted the hatchery or the feed manufacturer yet. On my Monday to do list!

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  41. My son raises Cornish Cross chickens for sale, and as a family we do the processing. Last year he raised 500, and so far this year he has 300 in the field. We've had a very cool, soggy spring here in ND, and it has been very tough on those chickens. Jonathan started to make and grind his own organic chick starter and uses probiotics, etc. to feed them, but was having quite a few deaths. He had his grains tested for protein content, and it turns out the feed didn't have enough protein. He also has 200 Rhode Island Reds for laying hens and they have worked out very well. We'll see how the rest of the season goes. It seems with the Cornish Cross when you think you have the process down there will be something else that happens, and there's always something new to learn. Thanks for this post.

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  42. Amy, do you plan on doing your own butchering?

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  43. Yes. Our homesteading group is going in together to purchase a chicken plucker kit which should help us do them much more efficiently. In fact, I need to get that ordered a.s.a.p.!

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  44. It amazing a homesteading blog has so many followers congrats on spreading the message! :)
    Hope you can check my blog out!! Just followed yours! :)
    www.organic-gardening-adventures.blogspot.com

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  45. I envy your chicken plucker already! I know I'll be super envious come butchering time here! LOL! ; )

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  46. Hi Amy!
    I've raised MANY birds for meat, had a few troubles with regular Cornish Cross, but we found a hatchery that carries what they call a "Silver Cross" Cornish - from Hoffman Hatchery in PA. We get about 100 chicks for just over $100 with shipping. The hatchery ships extra, so a few losses balance out. They are VERY hardy, much better than the "original" Cornish we'd tried, their cross is with a Barred Rock, which they resemble. We ordered all cockerels, but got a few "oops" hens, and one rooster who we thought was hen and never got butchered. (He hid in with the hens, and we've named him "Lucky"!) They all forage well, and made it through the winter with NO losses. They're laying great now, and we're hatching Lucky's chicks too for more meat chicks. They don't have the leg problems if allowed to free range after about 5-6 weeks. We get our feed (TURKEY/GAME BIRD feed, which has a higher protein content) from a local farmer who grinds and mixes his own organic feed. We also raise New Hampshires, Ameraucanas, Red Stars and Leghorns for eggs. Just got Houdans (LOVE THEM!), La Fleche and Langshans to try also this year. We've had roosters for meat, too, but they are tougher to eat, and don't have the weight/speed to size of the Cornish. Good luck with your Rangers!

    -Liz Delaney, www.stackedstonefarm.blogspot.com

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  47. I think you can safely say this is a feed issue not a breed problem. Based on the fact that everyone else feeding the same feed is having problems, even the one person with turkeys. It sounds like a riboflavin deficiency. Sometimes the feed mills forget to add it. The birds will start to curl their toes and show signs of paralysis. These birds are far too small to be having a large percentage of leg problems yet. Feed them raw liver right away to help remedy the problem. Grassfed beef liver is ideal. You can just put it out in pieces on cardboard and they'll start eating it. The birds are acting starving because they're malnourished. They continue to fill their crop hoping they'll find their missing nutrient. And since the weather has limited them from going out on pasture they only have their feed to find it, so they keep eating. Also, while I understand the value of feeding soy free and humans eating the same way, chickens are omnivores but chicken feeds are all vegetarian. Unfortunately soy is the closest plant product to a complete protein despite all it’s health problems. If going soy free the birds are going to grow slower and less uniform. Try to include meat scraps or fishmeal in their ration (but be careful about the fishmeal as some complain of a noticeably off-flavor in the chicken meat if it’s fed in too high of concentrations). We raise 2,000 CC birds a year on pasture, and while I abhor the industry that produces the chicks, because of our conditions we have a very low percentage of issues. And we produce an extremely flavorful bird with high customer demand. Regular movement to fresh pasture, large pens for them to freerange, good quality balanced organic feed, kelp for micronutrients, and eating lots of bugs ensure that the birds don't have leg problems, gorge themselves, or become sedentary or immobile. They roam free, bask in the sun, and are hard to catch up to the last day. You need to call your feed mill right away. Have a feed sack with the batch number on it and have the other people call them too. A good feedmill will replace the feed. And there should be time for the liver to still save your chicks. They may not ever be the thriftiest chickens around but they should survive.

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  48. Chris, Wow! Everything you said rings true in my mind! I'm so glad you took the time to weigh in and share your knowledge. The chicks are in the tractor today (finally) and I'll get that liver! Oh, and I've switched to another feed from the same company I use to feed my layers (who never have this issue). Thanks so much for sharing the wisdom you've acquired through experience!

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  49. http://healthyhomesteading.com/2011/06/the-poultry-plan-revisited-turkeys-ducks-and-chickens/#more-2058

    I was reading this blog and she says that she too had problems with the legs on her Freedom Rangers. She found out that the Organic feed was the problem.

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  50. Have you looked into the Jersey Giants for meat? Of course you have to wait until after 6 months but it's a large heritage breed, young males about 11lbs and young females about 8lbs. :-)

    http://www.purelypoultry.com/jersey-giant-chickens-p-247:5922de723b5914504802c37663cef270.html

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  51. Brandy, I'll look into them. Thanks for the tip and link!

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